While I was in Beijing I went to the Silk Market a few times to go shopping. A couple people I was with found "a great deal" on ipods. It said they were 4g. They looked great, and the people that were selling them even turned them on and let us try them out. Well 2 of my friends ended up buying one. When we took them back to our hostle and charged them up we found that they were a complete scam. They only held about 1 CD worth of music and also had problems charging and keeping their battery life. Steer clear of these, especially in the rip-off markets. They most definately will be rip-off.