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[quote=COOLSPRINGS,359061]AMPILOT, I think your statement could strike a sympathetic chord among middle aged honest working men and women (including Chinese).

Down grading  your situations to  Er'nai is ridiculouse.  If you limit your views on China to some vulgar chinese media or CCTV which i never watched, you will never understand Chinese. Er'nai is a special circle like undergroud prostitutions.  Hunger  and poor women in lower class who have no intention to liberrize themselves thur honest work and up to the Er'Nai who works for those corrupt officials are boomed in late 80 or early 90 and used to be a chinese unique social landscape, as ordinary chinese, I just knew it from official media and never saw it.  I believe the dirty corner will be and is being washed with china going to prosperity, but it takes time.

By the way, Shanghainese despise  Taiwanbiz men " street vendors' or farmers who usually as far as i can remember opened small family biz in the small villiage near shanghai.[/quote]

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