| Admiral Cheng He | |
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| Feb 11, 2006 10:32 |   |
 | We know who was Cheng He. Anyone knows his background ? Some articles said that he was from Yunnan. Some said he was a Turkish Moslem and became an eunuch in the Imperial Court. Or was he a Turkish Moslem from Yunnan who became an eunuch in the Imperial Court & later became the great admiral who travelled half way round the world ? And how did a Turk ended up working as an eunuch in the Imperial Court ? |
| Feb 12, 2006 07:13 | #1 |
| There is now a claim that Zheng He sailed round the world visiting Europe, North America ( and got shipwrecked off FLorida ! ) and New Zealand Australia ! It seemed that this was more than 80 yrs before Christopher COlumbus. |
| Feb 12, 2006 07:52 | #2 |
| Sound impressive - but am sure u got this from some links on the internet and summarise it. Anyway, kudos... |
| Feb 12, 2006 09:02 | #3 |
| Apparently the emergence & quick rise in favour of Zheng He or Ma He in the Imperial Court did give rise to your favourite word "green with envy". So soon after the death of Zheng He's supporter, Emperor Yong Le, his court enemies took the opportunity to discredit him and some of his travel notes were burnt or destroyed. As a result, official record pointed to Zheng He having reached the eastern coast of Africa only. But recently a ex British naval officer + some Chinese experts are claiming that indeed Zheng He reached at least the present day USA - ie USA was discovered by the Chinese. The indigenous Indians were there to welcome him of cos. When Christopher Columbus left sail for the New Land, he already had a map of the Atlantic and that there was a huge piece of land shaping like a lotus root(North/S. America) from some sources. It was beleive that these sources came from Zheng He's earlier travels. |
| Feb 12, 2006 13:23 | #4 |
| this help to claer the mist: http://community.travelchinaguide.com/forum_search_2.asp?pp=1&i=8961 |
| Feb 12, 2006 17:16 | #5 |
| Great forum. History lessons for everybody. |
| May 14, 2006 04:03 | #6 |
| Hello, Try this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/ |
| May 14, 2006 04:27 | #7 |
| Hello, Many things are not true, although the author Gavin Menzies made a lot of money out of his book without any fact on the discovery of America around then. There are many issues involve here and one would have to stay true to the science of things to realised all. For example, Asian in America could have happened before the gold rush in California, could have been centuries ago, but not necessary 1418 or within that 100 years +/- time frame. so DNA testing doesn't prove anything really except the fact that there are people with the Asian blood, the rest is just stories really. The recent discovered map is a "claimed" copy of the original 1418 map, where is the 1418 map? Someone claim that it is doesn't mean that it is true. I have seen fakes going way back to many centuries ago as there were already people who would buy something with a big fake artist name on it. I have seen a early map by about a dozen years and it looks way off from this one. THE KEY TO PROVE ANYTHING IS TO HAVE A REAL 1421 MAP, and without it everything is just pure fraction. Remember, anything after the Columbus of America doesn't count, as that is the very date that the knowledge of Asia, Europe and America had been established, words and map could be passed on from that point on. Gavin Menzies needs to find evidence that the very same fleet that he spoke of was doing what he said they were to prove his own point, and all the existing material doesn't suggest so even for another 100 plus years after 1418. Also, any evidence could have been planted at a later date, such as plant, animal, even artifact of the Ming Dynasty, he would need a real boat that there is in no other way could have got there otherwise with deposit on it from the nature aging of material nearby in the very same location. Chinese could have been all over the place even way before 1418, who knows? But those doesn't make it a America discovery, those could have been done pre-historically. It make more sense if he name his book as who landed on America first, but as for discovery and documented, once again, need evidence. Kind regards, Tony Ng (San Francisco)  |
| May 14, 2006 07:47 | #8 |
| Pinetree,Thanks! You are always giving me something new to research and in trun helps me learn more about China:)) |
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