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| Jan 17, 2009 01:37 | #31   |
| GUEST95104 | http://i524.photobucket.com/ |
| Jan 17, 2009 10:08 | #32 |
| GUEST92394 | more interesting stuff guys..... continued... South Africa Defense Equipment Copied by China.....Dated 8/1/2009 The top military technology that China aspires to acquire from South Africa is without doubt the unmanned air vehicle. China�s New Era Group Corporation had several rounds of negotiations with Denel on the possibility of producing in China two types of Denel UAVs, which were on display at the 2006 Zhuhai Air Show, called the Golden Eagle and the Seeker II. China hopes to obtain the technologies to assemble these two UAVs domestically. However, according to a source from the Denel Group, negotiations on the UAV deals have come to a halt and the company has decided that unless substantial progress is made on these negotiations, the company no longer wants to spend time dealing with the Chinese. Denel had a similar experience in trying to negotiate a deal with Chinese company Norinco for its Mokopa anti-tank missiles. The Chinese company expressed an interest in importing Denel�s technologies, but once again the negotiations ended with no result. Since 2007, Norinco has attempted to contact the Denel Group again, saying that it wants to import the company�s G5 155-mm howitzer ammunition handling system. But Denel is not eager to enter into an agreement with China on this project; Chinese-made 155-mm howitzers have already appeared in quite a number of countries in Northern Africa, including Algeria, Sudan and Egypt. The source from Denel did disclose that the company has successfully completed a deal with China for its 35-mm multirole machine gun. This technology in fact was exported to China 10 years ago. China seems to have upgraded this 35-mm gun to an air-defense machine gun. China�s New Era Group Corporation has also been negotiating with Denel for the transfer of African Eagle UAV technologies. The Chinese introductory brochure of the cooperation program claims that the African Eagle UAV is capable of taking a payload of 500 kilograms, which could be six Mokopa anti-tank missiles or two Umbani MK 81 precision-guided bombs. The theoretical combat radius of the African Eagle is 750 kilometers. China also hopes to obtain the South African Angel high-altitude and high-speed UAV attacker system. This attacker UAV is capable of carrying precision-guided weapons and attacking targets 1,400 kilometers away. The UAV is also capable of carrying A-Darter AAMs to launch unmanned aerial attacks. Nonetheless, the source from Denel disclosed that no substantial progress has been made on this project, indicating it may end up as one more failed deal. It remains to be seen whether China�s latest explorations with the company will yield technological information it can convert to its own purposes, however. |
| Jan 29, 2009 11:13 | #33 |
| GUEST78161 | Hi, Whats the current price of a single mig 35, I want to buy one. Email me back on (aol.com|mukarce) Rgds Roy |
| Feb 5, 2009 14:55 | #34 |
| GUESTRALPH | hello everyone, i have been readin the thread and lets put some things in place. I have been a researcher on indian sub continent defence prcurements and equipments for past 7 years so please have a look at what i have to speak. 1) India has not purchased any plane as a part of it global MMRCA tender. The user trial phase is about to start and all 6 (F-16, F-18, Rafael, Typhoon, Mig-35 and Grippen) are selected as they all fulfill the basic requirements. 2) India Air Force follows dominance policy towards PAF and containment towards PLAF. that means if there is a simultaneous conflict with PAF and PLAF, IAF wants to dominate PAF and contain PLAFF. The whole contention of MMRCA is progession towards this goal. IAF does not have the capability today. 4) India and China follow a different policy. India and China both wants a greater role in the international offairs and therefore flex their muscles wherever necessary. However both countries fully understand that entering a conflict will be similar to US & USSR cold war doctrine of MAD(Mutually Assured Destruction). Nobody wants to nuke anyone here. Everyone knows the consequences. So people on both sides of the border just keep their conventional weapon delivery platforms updated. 5) PAF follows IAF just like IAF follows PLAF. But the fact is any modernisation have to be backed by a robust economy which in this case is greatest for China among the three followed by India. All three are upgrading. But the pace is very different. It is guided by their respcetive budgets. Purchasing 126 MRCA will not bring a RELATIVE quantum leap to IAF cos by the time IAF will have all of them in the inventory (arnd 2020 both PAF and PLAF would have upgraded. So whats happening is raising the stakes). 6) IAF and PAF doent want a war (believe me). Both are in no mood of crippling their assets. IAF has Su-30 to take any threat from PAF but why waste the money and effort when everyone knows that eventual conflict will be decided by nuclear arms and nobody wants a holocaust so the war will not result in a solution. All three IAF, PAF and PLAF keep enhancing their weapon sysytems to remain contemporary. 7) Eventualy what the top brass thinks is that in coming times both IAF and PLAF will get closer in capabilities and IAF and PAF gap will increase to a point where (as i mentioned) the battle between India nad PAkistan will be solely guided by nuclear missiles. Which will never happen in all sane thinking. 8) last but not the least, India is trying to acquire missile sheild both by home grown R&D and by partnerships but still that is several years away and remains a distant practical dream till 2020/2025. Also no Missile defence provide 100% capability, so things will remain in a stalemate for another decade or so. Let me know if what u folks think and post any questions if possible. |
| Feb 23, 2009 01:45 | #35 |
| GUESTCENGDU | F-22 RAPTOR - why settle for #3? http://www.metacafe.com/ |
| Feb 28, 2009 21:26 | #36 |
| GUEST34240 | russia does, in fact, have AESA radars but none have been fielded as of late. This does not make the MIG-35 a 5th generation fighter, its a 4th generation fighter with major upgrades. Many 4th gen fighters will have these same upgrades by 2012. |
| Mar 21, 2009 00:25 | #37 |
| GUEST77169 | I am pretty sure china has neither MiG-35 nor Su-33, Chances are high it might take some more years before china gets those and agrees not to copy those russian pride. |
| May 18, 2009 11:44 | #38 |
| GUESTSTEFAN | Quote:Originally Posted by GUEST15591 F-16, J10 , FC-1 fighters is comparable to Mig 35Don't be funny. F-16 is piece of junk against MIG-35... Just be honest, dude. |
| May 18, 2009 13:26 | #39 |
| GUEST40129 | I've heard that India has ordered 126 MiG-35 from Russia as there have only been around 10 produced so far ... correct? |
| Jun 29, 2009 09:07 | #40 |
| GUEST36143 | For MMRCA Deal India should divide the deal betwen two. It should be Mig 35 and FA18 super hornet. My this way india will have a large scope of arms and technology. An army should always have variety for different roles. Both Mig 35 and FA 18 are superb aircraft and suitable for this deal. India should make the total number of aircraft to 150 adn divide 75 each to Mig and boeing. |
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