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| Sep 14, 2007 06:50 | #11   |
 | I made reference to the Russian factor, because most Americans see the dragon as the symbol of China. As we see the eagle as the symbol of the USA. And most American don't dislike China, or Chinese culture. |
| Sep 14, 2007 06:56 | #12 |
| The same way he Mike Savage, make's reference to Russia as the Bear "with rejection". |
| Sep 26, 2007 22:41 | #13 |
| JCNLE123, "Here in the USA, right wing individuals and neo-cons, use the dragon analogy in reference to China in a not so friendly terms.As a myth, in the west, there are nice dragons and bad dragons." Is it true that there are nice dragons and bad dragons in the? As far as I know, in most cases, dragons are viewed as evil in the west. Yes, Russia is compared to Bear, but I don't figure out any derogatory sense. |
| Sep 27, 2007 07:28 | #14 |
| Ok Mr. Leonardo let me go step by step on my reply. #1 unlike the eagle in the US of A and the bear in Russia our creature the dragon is a myth something of a legend, do you agree?? However as I understand it, the dragon, the eagle and the bear are symbols that identify our countries China, US of A and Russia. #2 If you read my reply properly it implies that this individual (M. Savage) uses the word bear in reference to Russia in a derogative way, The same way (He) refers to the dragon as he speaks about China in a not so friendly way. I have never said that the bear, the eagle, or the dragon are derogatory in any way, I respect all of the above as national symbols of the respective nations and peoples. I, respectfully disagree with you, and perhaps you need to do a little search about it, (I don't think the US of A is the west on it's on, but as far as the Us of A, concerns, WE the people of the US of A think that dragons are very friendly, and 99% are good.) Of course we don't wait to see if a bear is friendly or not, and today days we protect our eagle, it is a crime to harm a bold eagle in the US of A. Unfortunately, since the dragon is a myth we can only see what's shown in TV be it good dragons or bad dragons, there are no real dragons. As I travel around China, I was never lucky to see a real dragon, so I come back home we the firm believe that Chinese people really identify with dragons as a centuries old legend, but what's more relevant to the matter is the fact that there are in China good and bad dragons too. Now, as you say the west do you said the US of A? Or you said something like Australia, France, UK, and Germany and on the line???? I like you to know that the American people are by far, admirers and truth friends of the Chinese people, regardless of what others attempt to said, but more important, on my trips to China I found out how big a difference there is as the common Chinese people learn that we we’re from the US of A as common I’m my self. |
| Sep 27, 2007 23:26 | #15 |
| Thanks Mr JCNILE123 for your informative information. You probably misunderstood my intention. I didn't mean that American people are unfriendly to China because the symbol of Dragon has a cultural connotation of being evil in a general sense. I mean that there is only a cultural difference (generally speaking) in understanding the same animal species. Actually, perhaps, these animals( Dragon, eagle,or bear) themselves are neither evil nor good in a certain sense. As national symbols, we human being attached cultural connotation to these animals, which reflects different races worshiped different animals. That is alll what I wanted to say. I fully agree with you on the point that American people are true friends of Chinese people. I have met numerous friendly and sincere friends from the US. They all are quite nice and kind. I'd like to let you know that Chinese people are also friendly to American people. Despite of the inevitable big cultural differences between us, Chinese people has never held any antagonism or hostility against American people. "On my trips to China I found out how big a difference there is as the common Chinese people learn that we we’re from the US of A as common I’m my self." Well, I am in favor of this statement. It is true that there is a big difference. However, Mr JCNlE123, what is Chinese people's reaction when they learnt that you are from the USA? Probably, it's a kind of curiosity and admiration. Chinese people may think:" this man comes from the most developped and powerful country, so what is the life like for this man from the other side of this planet." A sense of curiosity. Nothing else. "I, respectfully disagree with you, and perhaps you need to do a little search about it, (I don't think the US of A is the west on it's on, but as far as the Us of A, concerns, WE the people of the US of A think that dragons are very friendly, and 99% are good.) Now, as you say the west do you said the US of A?" As to this point, I want to tell you Mr JCNLE123, that the division of East and West is a general politilical division. It is not my fabrication. The political or to say ideological division has its long history, which has been accepted by most individuals or groups of international community. Maybe you are right to say that "the people of the US of A think that dragons are very friendly, and 99% are good". However, dragon has ever had a negative image in the West for a long time. Perhaps, things have changed a lot. My statement is based on an outdated stereotype? |
| Apr 15, 2009 14:43 | #16 |
| GUEST74230 | Doesn't the "bad dragon" stuff come from the Bible? |
| Apr 16, 2009 14:20 | #17 |
| GUEST19029 | E...I come from China, and I think you made a big mistake... The west dragon and so called Chinese dragon are totally different.Actually they are two different creatures that have no connections. The "dragon" we say are far away from the dragon you say. I would rather say that it's a translation mistake. |
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