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| Aug 28, 2007 05:55 |   |
 | I promisewd to report back on getting a Z visa without leaving the mainland. The school asked and was told it would be ok to get it here. I was hopeful but doubtful. Now the answer is that I must leave the mainland. Thank goodness I am near Guangzhou and not in mid China. Oh and to my surprise the college will pay... I accept the Z visa as my responsibility... and provide transport there and back! Oh, and they decided that 40 student classes were too big and have split them and hired twice as many teachers. But I am not sure how I will cope with 7 x 90 minute classes each week. :) :) |
| Aug 28, 2007 20:54 | #1 |
| 40 students in one class is really too big for language learning. We had only 25 students in my class when I was in the university. But for other majors, 40 is just ok. We also had such long time classes for 120 minutes! But we could have a rest for 10 to 15 minutes in the interval. So Paul, don't worry, you must have the rest time too. : ) |
| Aug 30, 2007 03:23 | #2 |
| Evening: when I taught in Shijiazhuang most of my classes werre 50 students. When I taught for a few weeks in a middle school in Zhanjiang (Gd) there were 60 in each class and I also taught one primary school class with 90 students!!!! I was offered a job in a Zhanjiang uni this year, class sizes upto 50. Many foreign teachers report these numbers. There are real issues like money..or wanting to maximise profits, while other places like the primary school simply wanted to be able to advertise they have a foreign teacher. But I certainly agree that these numbers are too high. My comment "But I am not sure how I will cope with 7 x 90 minute classes each week. :) :)" was of course flippant... I see it as a part time job, I could easily teach 10 or 12...provided I am paid accordingly. When I started teaching in college in the UK I taught 22 one hour classes each week. In business where I taught computing for half of my career, some weeks I taught from 9 to 5 without a break for 4.5 days... that was hard work but the pay was good! |
| Sep 16, 2007 21:49 | #3 |
| Normal teaching loads at many US universities include 4 "50 minute" classes 3 times per week. Or 12 sessions. That is 600 minutes. You are 630 minutes. That is quite a load. However, if all are the same class, then the prep time is short. US universities often require three preps or three different courses. To be more competitive, US universities are reducing these faculty loads. Professor Thomas, CIBT China |
| Sep 19, 2007 07:21 | #4 |
| Hi Thomas The difference that this is not really uni teaching, it is like an older age high school at best. As I said I did 22 x 60 when I started teaching, that's 1320 minutes. I always knew when I done a week's work (and it was tough teaching apprentices who did not want to learn English and general Education) but I just considered it a normal week's work. |
| Sep 25, 2007 20:12 | #5 |
| GUEST90141 | I came to China with a (L) visa and received an extension for 6 months. Now I must apply for a (Z) visa. Do I need to go to America to apply for the (Z) visa? Or can I go to Hong Kong or South Korea? Karen |
| Sep 26, 2007 04:28 | #6 |
| You should be able to go to any Chinese consulate, ie you must leave the mainland. But you can always ask the local employer if they can approach the vocal PSB and ask if they will do it there. It is not supposed to happen, but you might strike lucky ! But come and work in my college instead :) |
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