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Beijing, Harbin Help!!!
Nov 15, 2009 07:58
  • SARA7731
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Hallo Everybody,

my husband and I are thinking about the opportunity of moving to Harbin or Beijing, as my husband has an opportunity of working there in transfer
for his company.
We are a couple of 30 years old people with a Baby and we are particularly worried for HIM as we are reading some terrible information about
POLLUTION in these two cities.
For this reason we would like to ask you some suggestions that will be for us very useful about the following subjects:

1- POLLUTION: I would like to get your opinions and your truth about the subject pollution (AIR, WATER, FOOD), to know how did you find
some solutions to it.
Is it possible to breath cleaner air living outside of the down town of these two big cities (Beijing and Harbin) and stay in the city only for work?
Is water in bottle (to use for cooking and for drinking) coming from Europe or other western countries available?
Is there anybody using some water purifier in his house?
Is there anybody using some air purifier in his house?
Is there the possibility to eat exclusively food coming from Europe or other western countries ( frozen food, canned food for vegetables and fruits )?
In case we would be interested in receiving periodically food from Europe by post, do you think there would be any restrictions
at the custom?

2- INTEGRATION IN THE SOCIETY: was it easy to integrate with the Chinese society and to offer to your family a good health care service?
What about the school for your children?
3- PRESENCE OF WESTERN CULTURE: is there a good number of western citizens?
4- COST OF LIVING: which minimum cost of living should a western citizen (that is living in Beijing or Harbin) consider?

Any suggestion or experience from you will be very very useful and we thank you very much even if you can answer only in part and only to some of the
above questions!!!
Nov 16, 2009 01:22
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  • CNVANON
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the best way is going to beijing for a while before moving to there..

By the way ,haerbin is far from beijing. beijing's traffic is bad
Nov 22, 2009 07:09
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GUEST69046 Hello,

thank you very much for your feedback and information you provided to me ! this is very helpful and useful for my family.
May I ask you additional information?
I heard that living outside Beijing it is not very easy....II would like to know a bit more about this, since I have no idea of how the environment and landscape in China looks like, in particular in Beijing.... is there not the possibility, like in a european country, to live outside Beijing , maybe 50 km or so? is not the air acceptable there ? my husband could go to work every day in Beijing, by car (or train if this is available...). How does the connections to Beijing (streets, trains, suburbs...) looks like?
Which is the area of Beijing more industrialized/ polluted? I imagine that pollution, being in the air, is spread everywhere, but maybe there are areas that are better in particular living far from the industrialized places...
May I ask you also information about safety (criminality and so on...) ? What should a person that is living in Beijing take care about in this sense ? and what about the sorrounding areas, are them "less safe" for instance ?
Thank you very very much for your help in all these topics ! and sorry if this will cause you waste of time. Again, even only a partial answer will be very useful for my family, in particular because my husband and I are particularly worried about our baby's health.


Dec 20, 2009 09:35
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  • ELLYSE
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No offence, but I think you would be better off not moving to China. You're simultaneously asking about integrating into the local population while wanting to keep your diet and way of living exclusively non-local....!
Dec 20, 2009 10:21
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Hmmm... I live around 50 km away from downtown Beijing and you know what? It takes hours to go downtown everytime I want to. For some certain times there would be a lot of trafic and if you've never been in China before I don't think it's that easy to drive a car. But lots of English-speaking people live in Beijing and I don't think they get too many problems....

As for food and pollution... People eat here and I'm sure there are a certain number of people who still alive. At least I live in China for more than 20 years, most of the time with Chinese food and luckily, I'm still alive...
The air polution is a bit problem for me because I used to live in a coastal city which is clean and I could get fresh air... But again, I'm still alive...
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