Should China use force to re-take Nansha Islands?

Should China use force to re-take Nansha Islands?
Apr 29, 2007 04:21	#11
SANYACHINA Points: Join Date: Mar 26, 2007 Status: Offline	Mechanical translation about these news: "China's Nansha Islands and their adjacent waters is indisputable sovereignty At 2:22 p.m. on April 11, 2007 vote : top about a large small -- International online news (cotinine) : Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang on the 10th, said in Beijing China's Nansha Islands and their adjacent waters is indisputable sovereignty, any other country on the unilateral action taken by the waters of China's territorial sovereignty, sovereign rights and jurisdiction over violations, and is illegal and invalid. It is reported that the Vietnamese government to further delineate a part of Nansha oil and gas block tender, Nansha will be held in the so-called "Congress" election, Vietnam will be BP and British companies in the area of natural gas pipeline construction. During the day's routine press conference, Qin Gang, this response to a reporter's question, said that Vietnam in the Nansha a series of new actions, violation of the leaders of both China and Vietnam on the sea reached important consensus, contrary to the "Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea", is not conducive to stability in the South China Sea. The Chinese side expresses serious concern, the Vietnamese side has made solemn representations." So, the situation is totally clear and the Chinese position is clear. According to the International law and Chinese constitution the proble will be solved.

Apr 29, 2007 04:21

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SANYACHINA
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Mechanical translation about these news:

"China's Nansha Islands and their adjacent waters is indisputable sovereignty
At 2:22 p.m. on April 11, 2007 vote : top about a large small --

International online news (cotinine) : Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang on the 10th, said in Beijing China's Nansha Islands and their adjacent waters is indisputable sovereignty, any other country on the unilateral action taken by the waters of China's territorial sovereignty, sovereign rights and jurisdiction over violations, and is illegal and invalid.

It is reported that the Vietnamese government to further delineate a part of Nansha oil and gas block tender, Nansha will be held in the so-called "Congress" election, Vietnam will be BP and British companies in the area of natural gas pipeline construction.

During the day's routine press conference, Qin Gang, this response to a reporter's question, said that Vietnam in the Nansha a series of new actions, violation of the leaders of both China and Vietnam on the sea reached important consensus, contrary to the "Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea", is not conducive to stability in the South China Sea. The Chinese side expresses serious concern, the Vietnamese side has made solemn representations."

So, the situation is totally clear and the Chinese position is clear. According to the International law and Chinese constitution the proble will be solved.

Apr 30, 2007 02:01

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JOHNNY512
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Why do we not use force to resolve the problem of Vietnam?

1、Military strength is not enough?

Absolutely not! If we fight with Vietnam, it won't be called as a campaign, just like a battle.
We can see the result from 1988, Vietnam is very fragile.
According to the "Global Security" magazine introduced:
Vietnamese navy owns a number of 40,000 soldiers (including 27,000 marines).
Navy equipments include two submarines, five frigates, five small frigates, more than 40 patrol/missiles boats, five

minesweepers, eight minesweepers boats, six landing crafts and more than 30 small landing boats.

Look at its strength. It's very easy for us to exterminate them.

2、We dare not?

Someone said that now the U.S, Japan or even India become the background of Vietnam, so we estimated the strength, then give up?
LOL~
China doesn't want to have war with Vietnam, coz we would like to give him a chance. The last chance for him to wake up. If he continues to be unrepentant, i'm sorry. Goodbye, Vietnam!

May 3, 2007 04:28	#13
SANYACHINA Points: Join Date: Mar 26, 2007 Status: Offline	Yes, Johnny China is much stronger than Vietnam. Vietnam is like a Chinese province. But what is the result from 1988?

May 5, 2007 09:38	#14
APAULT Points: Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Status: Offline	War is no answer. Suggestions that China should use force are what frightens many other nations. So then they increase their military because of big bad China (in this case) and we have military escalation. Lets learn from the Taiwan situation. No longer are there any gunboat exercises, instead we see win-win economic co-operation.

Dec 31, 2007 23:47

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GUESTSONG2

Hi guys, this topic seems closed months ago. But recently Chinese again announce its rights on these islands AND Vietnam as always strongly protest those annoucements. There're even demonstrastion of Vietnamese students again China claim.

The point of Vietnam is, Vietnam says China has only passed by the islands before 19 century with its Hainan troop. It never settled it foot on the Nansha ans Xisha islands. Mean while, Vietnamese King has claim possession of the islands at least by early 19 century.

Below is a quote from Mémoire sur la Cochinchine (Memois of the Cochinchine (South of Vietnam) by
Jean Baptiste Chaigneau (1769-1825):
“Topographie: Division physique- La Cochinchine don’t le souverain porte aujourd’hui le titre d’Empereur, comprend la Cochinchine proprement dite, le Tonquin…, quelques iles habitées peu éloignées de la côte et l’archipel de Paracels, composé d’ilôts, d’écueils et de rochers inhabités. C’est seulement en 1816, que l’Empereur actuel a pris possession de cet archipel”. (Le Mémoire sur la Cochinchine de Jean Baptiste Chaigneau, publié et annoté par A. Salles, Inspecteur des Colonies en retraite, in Bulletin des Amis du Vieux Hue, No 2, Avrit-Juin 1923).

which roughly means: "Geography: the King of Cochinechine has acclaimed teritory of the Cochinechine, Tonkin (North of Vietnam),.. and some islands along the coast and the Paracel islands, consists of manu iles and unhabited rocks. In 1816, the King has taken possession of these islands."

"China actual of interest in these islands only came under communist regime in second half of 20th century, when it see the natural reserves, the strategic geography of the islands AND the alliance with former Vietnamese goverment. It is this former alliance of Vietnamese (where it got help from China) prevents current Vietnamese diplomats from strong announce Vietnam rights on these islands."

Above are some of the arguments from Vietnam side and is open to your discussion.

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