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Marriage... How does a foreigner marry a chinese woman?
Sep 30, 2007 16:54
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GUEST20080 hello, l have read your posts and have learned a few things l had not knowen of yet, is it true that me(American male) most meet in person my Chinese friend at least once in the two years before we can begin to figger out how to married? l'm retired-disabled, on ss , l'm of limited resorses, any and all help will be very helpful, thank you for our time, Walt in WA. state









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Oct 1, 2007 13:03
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Yes, it is the policy of the USCIS/DOS that a USC [must] have at least one actual visit with a foreign national (not just Chinese) with whom he/she wishes to marry and bring to the USA. Keep in mind, that not only do you have the costs associated with the visit to the person in their home country, you will also have the now very high application and processing costs associated with this endeavor. The USCIS and DOS recently raised all of the fees for these types of visas to high levels, on July 31st 2007. Then you have the cost of her transportation to the USA once a visa is issued. If you choose to have an attorney assist you with the mountain of forms and paperwork, then there are still more costs involved.

In reality, most USC’s have more than one visit and it goes to show the bona fides of the relationship. Fraud is a very big problem for the USCIS with respect to individuals who enter sham marriages for financial gain. This is why the process is so long now and so in depth for the USC.

Moreover, and not to rain on your parade; one must also be at least at a minimum income level of 125% of the US Government posting of the current poverty level in the USA. One must be able to show/document adequate resources and domicile to provide support for a foreign national spouse, either when bringing the person to the USA under the K-1 fiancée visa or the K-3 spousal visa. The US Government will not allow a foreign national spouse to become a public charge in the US, at the expense of the tax payers at large. A USC must sign documents to this effect and will be held financially liable should the marriage fail and the spouse seeks public support/aid, upon leaving the USC.

While an American citizen (USC) has the right to marry anyone they choose, one does [not] have the right to bring a foreign national to live in the USA.

If one does not have the resources to support a foreign national spouse in the USA, they are always free to reside with that individual in his/her home country, and many do…….if the foreign spouse would really want that type of relationship.
Oct 1, 2007 22:07
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GUESTJAMIESON Mate, I got married very easily in China. Got Mrs. Jamieson to get a letter from the local Police Station certifying her residence and single status in Suzhou. I got a search result from the Western Australian Government Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages proving that I wasn't married. Took that and a divorce certificate to the Australian Consulate in Shanghai to get a certificate of "No Impediment to Marriage", In English and Chinese with that valuable Red Stamp.

Took the train to Nanjing (Province Capital), went to the Office specialising in Marriages between Foreigners and Chinese. About 700 RMB, 3 hours, and bam - Hitched.

Just be patient, smile a lot. Join the line of Germans and Americans. DO NOT get angry at any hiccups, I can't stress how important it is NOT to lose your cool, or complain.

Make sure you have all your documents translated and notarised. You will be fine. Chinese Officials will make your life hell if you rock the boat. It is not the same as home. Trust me, 4.5 years here is a good lesson.

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Jamieson.
Oct 5, 2007 13:21
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GUEST00227 hello, l am planing a trip to china to meet my lady friend, my question is this, after meeting her , l decice to move to China, is it posibule to take my dog with me? thank you for rply, Walter
Oct 6, 2007 03:19
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GUEST55131 So the Chinese value not the wedding creermony but the reception afterwards?

Also, if you bring her over to the US on Finace visa can you just marry her there in us and keep her there?


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Oct 7, 2007 01:56
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Quote: “So the Chinese value not the wedding creermony but the reception afterwards?
Also, if you bring her over to the US on Finace visa can you just marry her there in us and keep her there?”

First, not sure of the English usage herein, with respect to the word “there” or do you mean ‘here’ ?? Also, I am not sure if I understand the term “keep her there?” ?? One ‘keeps’ a dog or cat or gold fish. One does not ‘keep’ a human being !!!

In the Chinese culture, both the wedding and the reception are important. The actual civil wedding ceremony may last 20 minutes; the reception several hours.

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Oct 7, 2007 01:57
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Next, for male US citizens: As I have outlined in another previous post, establishing a relationship with a woman from China and then marrying her with the intent to immigrate her to the USA, is not a game and it is not an endeavor to be entered into lightly. One must have a deep and complete understanding of the background and personal values of the prospective partner, as well as a more than cursory understanding of the [culture] from which is her origin.

So often, no thought is given to the realities of a cross-cultural union and all the preparation, hard work, and ongoing commitment it takes to have any chance at success. To form a successful relationship with a woman from China (or any non-western culture) one must be [mature] reasonably educated, have adequate financial resources, have the ability to be totally committed, very patient, have the capacity for deep and caring love, and be willing to understand and adapt to significant cultural differences.

If you are an American citizen (USC), it means you will be subjected to an intensive background check by the USCIS, DOS, FBI, IRS, and maybe even the CIA. The laws/regulations for US citizens bringing a foreign national fiancée/spouse to the US have changed greatly not only since 9-11, but also since early 2006, when the new IMBRA legislation was signed into law by the President. Not only are there reams of paperwork to complete, and now steep fees ($$) to pay, at the various steps of the process; one must be able to demonstrate/document a stable domicile, an adequate/stable income, and sufficient financial resources to support the new spouse.

Moreover, if you are a previous convicted felon, a spousal abuser, a tax evader/cheat, or you are a bum, who may be looking for a woman to come work for you, cook for you, clean your apartment, and/or be your toy, while you sit at home, drink beer and watch TV; you should think twice and look elsewhere for a companion, as the US law requires any/all negatives in your past to be fully disclosed to the woman. Most likely, with some issues, you may be denied the visa outright, pending further investigation, by the various Federal Agencies. Last, should the relationship fail, and the spouse becomes a public charge, you would have already signed documents early-on in the process, which make you legally responsible for her financial well being for a period of three years after her entry to the US; therefore, any monies spent by public entities in her support must be repaid by you, the sponsor.

Like it or not - this is the new reality !!


Oct 8, 2007 01:31
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GUEST24106 good morning
i am a muslim and already married to a woman
i want to marry a chinese woman that i love and she has no objection that i am a married muslim
what should i do to marry that chinese woman
thanks
Oct 12, 2007 11:14
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GUEST91288 Hi, I am an indian guy and want to marry my chinese girl friend in beijing. I have gone through the webpage of "foreigners marrying chinese girl" and found one interesting note

"Under the Marriage with Foreigner's Act 1906 you must reside continuously in China for 21 clear days before giving notice of your intended marriage. The period of residency must be immediately prior to submission of the notice. The 21 day period cannot be counted from a number of previous visits or residency period. "

I would like to know if this is true or not.

Do the foreigners need to stay upto 21 days, before applying for marriage registration ???

Can i get marry in a week time ? Lets say, i arrive in Beijing on MONDAY with all legal documents, can i simply apply for marriage registration on Tuesday/Wednesday ?

If any one has information about such law, please let me know.

Thanks.
Oct 12, 2007 11:18
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GUEST91288 Congratulations for getting married to your lady love.

I am also planning to marry my chinese girl and would like to ask a few things from you.

Is there any requirement that a person has to stay in china for 21 days, before applying for the registartion?

What are the other documents needed besides, "Bachelor- hood certificate ( stating i have not been married before), my passport copy, chinese translation ??

I assume that there is no need of medical check up? Am i correct ?

Please let me know if there is any other special documents/things needed?

Thanks.
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