| Marriage... How does a foreigner marry a chinese woman? | |
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| Sep 1, 2011 22:59 | #401   |
 | Guest 4445, thanks for the comment. The issue in hand is, we love each other so much and we can't make it without each other. In my country, there is no restriction by law or religion. My wife knows all and has no objection to it. I am not cheating and can't ever think of that. I don't even want to treat her as just my girlfriend. We have not yet even decided on marrying. But I just don't want to hang around with her; for its not just lust. Love has its own values' and I want to give her all what I can. SO in my view, I want to go to China, work and stay there for a good while; and when things settle; I would opt for next steps including getting married to her. Believe me, she will support and stand by my decision and opinion. Dialogues settle the worst of problems. So as a matter of fact, whether we do this or that; its our own understanding. I am jsut asking about the processes both legal and social; including immigration processes. |
| Sep 1, 2011 23:05 | #402 |
| Now I put a simple question again. What, if we both agree on coming back to my country; and live here permanently. If that be the case, I am concerned about her Chinese nationality, caz she will have to go back to her parents as and when she wants to; and I will have to join her also. I might even think of doing some business in China. Now, I want to invite her to my country Pakistan to let her spend some time here and witness everything with own eyes. How should I pursue this. Can she have a visit visa easily for one or 2/3 months easily; I want to pay for every single expense, ticket, visa etc. Plz anyone tell me how to help her; she is so innocent and I don't want to bother her; rather give her anything ready made. |
| Sep 1, 2011 23:12 | #403 |
| GUEST4445 | So what about your wife? Does she know you have another woman in China? As I said, polygamy is no acceptable in China. To get married in China, you need to offer a single certificate or divorce paper from your country or embassy in China. Do you think they can give you such a certificate? Or are you going to get a fake one and cheat the Chinese civil affairs bureau? |
| Sep 1, 2011 23:14 | #404 |
| One more point worth noting is that for most of the muslim countries since polygamy is legal and does not involve any cumbersome legal processes in their countries including mine; I have found it common that they get married while being abroad (whether they cheat local wife or international and for any reason; their own business, but they do it). If I am not cheating on either side, rather am honoring my commitments. Falling in love is not a crime, nor did we do it by plannng or intention. The best I could do, is that there is no problem in the certificate of marriageability from my side (though seems to be a little documentary cheating; but never challengeable) as we all know about the facts behind. Same as like in UK and USA, people do have paper marriages for legal matters especially in immigration etc. So if we are not cheating each other, not cheating religions, not usurping someone's rights, rather honoring our love and for a common and eternal good' whats wrong in making it possible. Don't we know "anything is fair but in LOVE and WAR". |
| Sep 1, 2011 23:20 | #405 |
| Guest4445, I think I have already answered your question. Yes, my first wife knows all and she is happy that I have my love in China and that I don't want to cheat and be disloyal to her. She advises me to go to China and marry her; and if I don't like living there, I must come along with my Chinese Girl (if we get married by then) back home for living together. I don't even want to cheat Chinese laws. and can come up with the certificate on oath "yes I am married, have kids, but I am allowed to marry again, by law and religion, as muslim" but Chinese laws are not answerable to me; so if they bar me, I have no other option but to tell a small lie. Yes of course, one can have that certificate, attested and notarized; as I referred about paper marriages even in US and UK. |
| Sep 2, 2011 00:58 | #406 |
| GUEST4445 | Fine, it's your call. I already told you what I had to say. |
| Sep 2, 2011 02:48 | #407 |
| I am open to discussion for a valuable advise please. Can I have comment of Rogerinca and Mickkinc |
| Sep 2, 2011 04:34 | #408 |
| GUEST2254 | Quote:Originally Posted by BBB123 Do you just think it is a smal lie? Once you were found out cheating, you would have much trouble. Do you really think of this? How it will affect your Chinese girlfriend and her family? Reputation or FACE is very important to Chinese people. Does her parents approve your marriage? |
| Sep 2, 2011 06:45 | #409 |
| Oh no, u took me wrong sir; I mean to say if we all agree amongst ourselves based on arguments; and still if the local laws stop us; then we have only the option of either challenging the law and spend a dramatic life for this cause (out of question); or take a short cut; just fill the documents and that's it. When we all don't mind; why should then the rules stop us. We are not doing any injustice to anyone. Rather doing a good for all. And the love of 2 people cannot harm the whole world and its policies; why should then we indulge in lust; sex and illicit relations in secret; while coming out well dressed in white collars. I think this lie is 100 times better than all those lies. The most u can say is that I should turn back to my family. My argument is that I had an arranged marriage and secondly, my customs, family, religion, laws all unanimously approve my marriage with my lover; so the second part comes as the consent of my Chinese Lover and her family; and now if they all surrender to the wish, what then goes wrong. Don't we all do a million things in ommissions, commissions, tax evasions, duties drawbacks, rentals etc. solely for business deals; and same in politics; so if we can say a logical things for the safety of two hearts and souls and their eternal peace and happiness; will the whole China and its economy stop; or will my country be more prone to Osama and Al-Qaeda. Think on it once more please; and come up witth a logical argument; to help me. |
| Sep 2, 2011 20:54 | #410 |
| GUEST2254 | "Think on it once more please; and come up witth a logical argument; to help me. " OK. There is a Chinese saying "纸包不住火", meaning "You can't use paper to wrap up fire." Once you were caught cheating, you will have much trouble when you go to China. If you have trouble in future, don't blame that I didn't warn you. |
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