| Seven Principles for Divorcing in Ancient China | |
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| Aug 23, 2007 22:32 |   |
 | There are a lot of principles and rules in ancient China. Do you know the Seven Principles of divorcing? |
| Aug 23, 2007 23:20 | #1 |
| I just know that only the husband can divorce his wife in ancient times. It is not fair. Seven principles for divorcing? Never heard of it. |
| Aug 24, 2007 04:51 | #2 |
| It must be 七出, right? |
| Aug 24, 2007 07:36 | #3 |
| May, I think it is based on the 7 outs,Qi Chu; One, if she disobeys his parents. Two, if she cannot bear a son. Three, if she commites audultery. Four,if she acted in a jealous and was unwilling to take in a concubine. Five, if she became very sick. Six,if she talked too much. Seven, if she commited theft. I am not brave enough to make any further comment. Dodger. |
| Aug 24, 2007 11:34 | #4 |
| oh May, what were you thinking starting this thread? Even Dodger, obviously wise, is nervous to make further comment..... But 'Six' cannot be possibly be serious... who ever heard of a woman talking too much? :-) |
| Aug 24, 2007 11:42 | #5 |
| Ha Ha, Very funny Mike. I don't blame Dodger for not adding any further comment as he has just got married. |
| Aug 25, 2007 11:28 | #6 |
| I found #1 and #4 rather interesting. Obedience is important for children and employees. ...but it is difficult to think of married people being obedient to their in-law parents. ...although my father was the enforcer of my grandfather's instructions to his adult children, but some how that obedience doesn't seem quite the same. And based on #4 a wife should have no reason for upset over a mistress. Very interesting. ...and Mike...#6 sounds like a loophole to me ;-) |
| Aug 25, 2007 20:11 | #7 |
| Griz, the Wife would have lived in the same household as her inlaws and became a part of their family. #4 Mistress or Concubine or 2nd Wife, the terms are almost interchangable and if the Husband wished it she would live with the family. The Family chose the first Wife but the Husband was allowed to choose #1/2/etc. #6 may in fact refere to the volume of the wife's voice. Along with a moon face, light skin, and small feet the voice must be "small" This set of rules is not that ancient either. Still very much in place in the 50's and early 60's. If I had the bottle I may have added "the good old days" but I havn't and didn't Dodger |
| Aug 27, 2007 01:27 | #8 |
| Yes, Dodger. It's the Seven Outs, 七出 This is really a persecution to women according to ancient sexism. I'm just wondering whether there are similar principles in ancient western culture? What's the relationship between wife and husband in ancient western world? |
| Aug 27, 2007 01:40 | #9 |
| Plus, there's another interesting principle Three Don't Outs, 三不出 One can not divorce his wife: # 1. If the wife has no family to return; # 2. If the wife has mourned to her parents-in-law for three years; # 3. If the husband was poor when marring the wife and now is wealthy. |
| Aug 27, 2007 04:58 | #10 |
| May, not sure about #1 #2 you are correct as I read it #3 every thing that the Wife makes belong to the Husband? In the West a Woman could not own property in her name or have the vote ( in UK untill 1920?) But smart Women have always found a way around this..Cixiu, and the good Queen Liz who beat the Spainish invasion. There are many other relationships that in the olden time revealed that women were the the most powerfull. Dodger |
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