| Death penalty, abolished or not? | |
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| Oct 19, 2007 01:23 | #11   |
 | Do we people have the right to decide if a person can live or die? If so, why do we advocate that we are all equal? Compared death penalty with ife imprisonment, which is crueler? |
| Oct 19, 2007 11:15 | #12 |
| Death penalty can not be used as a punishment. The meaning of punishment is to teach the punished one what he / she did is wrong and should not be done again. Well, after death that person won´t do it, that´s for sure, but.... What is the crime that deserves death penalty? Murder, child abuse, drug smuggling, rape.......? Who committes these kinds of crimes? People who are mentally ill, people who doesn´t care what happens, people who think they don´t get gaught. So, death penalty is not any kind of cure for criminality. But for some crimes I support death penalty. Also prison is not a cure when think about mentally ill persons. If they commit some terrible crime, they do it after gettind out of prison, too. No point to put them to prison for the rest of their lives. As well can execute them. |
| Oct 19, 2007 14:28 | #13 |
| The people facing harsh criminal punishment are rarely good role models. You only punish people when there is a hope they may reform and become valuable to society. If they will never reform and never be of use to society, exterminate them like the disease spreading vermin that they are. The death penalty reduces crime - if only because that one criminal will no longer be doing bad things. And it is possible that it can reduce crime by 杀鸡儆猴 - punishing as a warning to others. |
| Oct 21, 2007 06:31 | #14 |
| Does the Death Penalty reduce crime? That is not what I hear from criminologists. People who are inclined to the anti-social behaviour for which we might consider the death penalty are rarely discouraged by the threat of it. Resticting guns and knives reduces the severity of crime. Legalising drugs consumption reduces crime, not just the crime of possession but gets the crime gangs out of the loop and stops removes the need for the addicts to stal to buy the drugs. In Sydney there has been some success in this but always the arch conservatives prevent it..I wonder who is paying them? |
| Oct 22, 2007 10:58 | #15 |
| >>>Does the Death Penalty reduce crime? That is not what I hear from criminologists. Paul, it most certainly does reduce crime because that executed criminal can no longer commit the crimes that they would have committed. Does it deter others? Probably only those criminals who are not yet hardened. >>>Resticting guns and knives reduces the severity of crime. This is another piece of mythology, Paul. The states and communities within the US with the strongest anti-gun laws have the highest crime rates. Only law-abiding citizens obey the restrictions, leaving them defenseless against the armed criminals. We have never had a drive-by shooting in Montana because criminals know that the people on the street would shoot back at them. I've carried a gun in my pocket for 20 years and never shot or murdered anyone. I have only un-holstered my gun twice in that time; in both cases the would-be attack fled at the sight of the firearm. With few exceptions, criminals are cowards. >>>Legalising drugs consumption reduces crime, not just the crime of possession but gets the crime gangs out of the loop and stops removes the need for the addicts to stal to buy the drugs. Works in theory, but has not worked in practice in the US. The methadone program only increased the drug supply. I guess it might work if you opened heroin pubs. ...then instead of the west just having thousands of functional drunks we could have thousands of functional junkies too. Imposing laws only restricts the freedom of people who already follow moral precepts; laws have no effect on criminals unless the criminals are caught. Western governments want crime and criminals...it gives them an excuse to grow their bureaucracies, raise taxes and impose further controls on productive, tax-paying citizens. Why China is moving so rapidly towards westernization is an absolute mystery to me; money is not everything when western social problems come with the money. The price of westernization is terribly high. Once China has western-style crime it will not be a nice place to be. In reality, China has very little crime and has dealt effectively with it in the Chinese way. The west has done a terrible job at controlling crime; the criminals rule. We can hope Chinese rulers are smarter than those in the west. |
| Oct 22, 2007 11:48 | #16 |
| I agree Griz, in London the amount of gun crimes are on the increase, most are Black on Black killings usually drug related, even women and children are getting shot at now. |
| Oct 23, 2007 01:23 | #17 |
| I just wonder whether we should give those who deserve death penalty a chance to reform. I hear that a man who once committed felony and deserved death penalty spent rest of his life writing a book to regret for what he had done. This has moved many people. But he was still executed finally. Many people showed their dissatisfaction on the verdict. Do you think he should be forgiven? |
| Oct 23, 2007 05:07 | #18 |
| Griz, A well thought out reply. They had a Gun buy back Scheme in Oz a few years ago. Only the good guys handed in their guns and there are just as many guns on the streets. On Drugs; If we remove the monetary reward from the equation there would be no Drug Dealers surly? Does any Government have the Balls to hand it out from free? A very large percentage of crimes are drug related. That is, they are committed to obtain money to buy them. Just an idea. Dodger. |
| Oct 23, 2007 05:20 | #19 |
| I think thats the way to go Dodger, make the drugs legal, cut out the middle man, our government talked about it but as yet nothing. My niece used to take drugs and has resorted in the past to stealing to pay for it, hopefully she has now turned the corner now that she has her 2 children, I hope so for their sake. Alan. |
| Oct 23, 2007 13:06 | #20 |
| >>>Do you think he should be forgiven? If a mere mortal could look into the criminal's we would know, ICEBERG. In the US, finding religion and writing remorseful books has become so commonplace that has become a popular criminal's scam. We have a saying, "A leopard cannot change its spots." |
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