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| Oct 23, 2007 20:49 | #21   |
 | Griz, perhaps some of the criminals really play scams to escape from being punished. However, there are some people who has realized his mistake and wants to reform. Shouldn't they be forgiven? Guilt will make them suffer in their rest life. Compared with death penalty, this 'life imprisonment' is crueler. |
| Oct 24, 2007 01:21 | #22 |
| If they get " life imprisonment " then it really should be life, over here they get let out after a certain amount of time and go on to kill again, not everyone but most. A former colleague of mine is serving life for murder at the moment, he will be released in about 10 years time and will be still young enough to kill again, this should not be allowed to happen, I hope he never comes out. |
| Oct 24, 2007 07:37 | #23 |
| One-in-a-billion DNA match links suspect to girl’s murder, 32 years on by Russell Jenkins, Times Online correspondent - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ A part-time taxi driver stabbed an 11-year-old girl to death in a frenzied sex attack 32 years ago and allowed an innocent man to go to jail for the murder, Bradford Crown Court was told yesterday. Ronald Castree, now 54 and a comic-book dealer, is accused of abducting Lesley Molseed as she was on her way to the shops in Rochdale in October, 1975, and driving her to a “lonely spot” on the moors. Her body was discovered there three days later. Mr Castree allegedly stabbed her 12 times. Julian Goose, QC, opening for the prosecution, said that Mr Castree lured a nine-year-old girl into his taxi nine months later and took her to a derelict house, where he subjected her a similar assault before she kicked out, broke free and ran home. Stefan Kiszko, a tax clerk, was found guilty of Lesley’s murder in July 1976, and went on to serve more than 16 years in jail before conclusive evidence showed that he could not have been the killer. Mr Goose told the jury that it was only DNA technology that enabled police to extract the real killer’s genetic profile. The match to a swab taken from Mr Castree after an unrelated incident in 2005 represented a one-in-a-billion match, he said. Mr Castree, from Shaw, near Oldham, scribbled notes. He denies murder. Mr Goose said that the DNA match was an exact one. “The man who carried out those acts had a sexual interest in very young girls and, in a violent rage, killed Lesley Molseed in a frenzied attack with a knife,” Mr Goose said. “That man was definitely not Stefan Kiszko.” |
| Oct 24, 2007 07:38 | #24 |
| Although Lesley’s clothes were destroyed in 1985, the forensic science service preserved samples of sperm on adhesive tape. Scientists were able to subject the evidence from the unsolved crime to DNA analysis in 1999 and came up with the killer’s profile. Mr Goose said that on his arrest Mr Castree was taken to Halifax police station, where he allegedly told a custody officer: “I’ve been expecting this for years.” It emerged that at the time of Lesley’s murder Mr Castree was living within a mile of the Molseeds. That weekend, the prosecution says, his first wife, Beverly, was in hospital with her newborn baby and he was alone. The jury was told that almost nine months after the murder Mr Castree pleaded guilty before Rochdale magistrates to the indecent assault of the nine-year-old girl. Both the victim, who cannot be identified, and Lesley shared a similar height and weight, both suffered learning difficulties and lived close to each other. Stefan Kiszko, an Inland Revenue tax clerk from Rochdale, had the mental and emotional age of a 12-year-old. He confessed to Lesley’s murder after two days of intensive questioning without a solicitor. Evidence emerged that cleared him in 1992 - he had a condition that meant he could not produce sperm, but semen was found at the scene. He died of a heart attack in 1993. |
| Oct 24, 2007 07:41 | #25 |
| A part-time taxi driver stabbed an 11-year-old girl to death in a frenzied sex attack 32 years ago and allowed an innocent man to go to jail for the murder, Bradford Crown Court was told yesterday. Ronald Castree, now 54 and a comic-book dealer, is accused of abducting Lesley Molseed as she was on her way to the shops in Rochdale in October, 1975, and driving her to a “lonely spot” on the moors. Her body was discovered there three days later. Mr Castree allegedly stabbed her 12 times. Julian Goose, QC, opening for the prosecution, said that Mr Castree lured a nine-year-old girl into his taxi nine months later and took her to a derelict house, where he subjected her a similar assault before she kicked out, broke free and ran home. The episode revealed his attraction to very young girls, he said. Stefan Kiszko, a tax clerk, was found guilty of Lesley’s murder in July 1976, and went on to serve more than 16 years in jail before conclusive evidence showed that he could not have been the killer. Mr Goose told the jury that it was only DNA technology that enabled police to extract the real killer’s genetic profile. The match to a swab taken from Mr Castree after an unrelated incident in 2005 represented a one-in-a-billion match, he said. |
| Oct 24, 2007 15:34 | #26 |
| And your point, GHOST? Everyone acknowledged that mistakes will happen. Stefan Kiszko was not executed; he'll probably win a large settlement for wrongful imprisonment (doesn't bring back 16 years but it is better than nothing). The question is: What will they do with Ronald Castree? |
| Oct 24, 2007 20:57 | #27 |
| Ronald Castree should be executed as soon as possible. Mistakes will happen but the loss can not be made up. Stefan Kiszko had died. It is no use winning a large settlement for him. |
| Oct 25, 2007 12:16 | #28 |
| Ahhhhh...I missed those notes at the very bottom of the article, JIMMYB. You are correct, a big settlement won't do him any good now. |
| Oct 25, 2007 21:08 | #29 |
| I guess that Ghost wants to reiterate his point by illustrating such a tragedy. Judgement is decided by people and people sometimes make their decision not based on facts but on feelings. Quote: He confessed to Lesley’s murder after two days of intensive questioning without a solicitor. If I were him, I would 'confess' too. He had no ways but confessed to Lesley's murder since he could not bear two-day intensive questioning. |
| Oct 28, 2007 19:33 | #30 |
| Thank you, Iceberg. I had problems with my internet after posting that article (hence the repeat entry!). Yes, I was trying to reinforce my argument. There have been others also who have been executed who have subsequently been found to be innocent. Not much hope for them receiving any kind of compensation, is there? Not to mention the family heart-ache and shame through the process. Griz raises the interesting question of whether money can compensate you for time in incarceration. Not sure I'd like to be a rich old man and spend my youth locked up (well, let me correct that - I'd love to be a rich old man, just not much chance of that!). |
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