| work license to z-visa to work permit | |
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| Nov 29, 2007 06:37 | #11   |
 | Let you sweep in front of your own door, and the whole world will be clean; wherever you go, whatever you do, you must be honest. "A grasping hand is forever empty, A giving hand is always full." |
| Nov 30, 2007 11:05 | #12 |
| Washer: 'whatever you do, you must be honest". If only the world really worked that way. unfortunately our mothers teach us to lie...the ones we call 'white lies'. In fact if we don't act diplomatically and tell white lies we would be quickly ostracised. |
| Dec 1, 2007 07:55 | #13 |
| but lie can not be turned into truth. |
| Dec 1, 2007 09:47 | #14 |
| No, but they help people. People need to be flattered. I rememeber my mother asked me if I like her new dress. I replied 'no'. So she was upset and my father scolded me. So next time.... exactly. When it comes to beaurocracies such as visa issuers, they act on what you tell them. If you forget to mention something, they are happy and you get a visa. Everyone is happy! Tell them that you have been convicted for receiving a stolen toothbrush, and oh dear, they have to look up the rulebook, ...and oh so much work, they are not happy, so they don't issue the visa then you are not happy. So the lesson you learn is, just don't say too much, say what people want to hear. That's not telling lies. |
| Jan 17, 2008 02:52 | #15 |
| GUEST32237 | Hey Guys, Ive been living and working in China now for several years on various visas, permits etc. Currently in my passport (British) I have a 1yr residence permit which expires in a few months. I also have another book that is some kind of work permit. Having spent hours going through posts on various sites it seems that I am actually now here illegally as my employment ended last summer. So in theory my residence visa has expired although i still travel in and out of China with it no problem. Within the past 2 years I have married a Chinese girl but it seems the minimum term for permanent residency is 5 years before they will issue that. So my question is can i apply for a new 1 year residence permit without having employment in China. I live here 90% of the time so fit that criteria or do I have to get a tourist visa. Also I have heard that they could be limiting the length of this type of visa and restricting the numbers issued in a few months as a way of controlling the numbers of foreigners that enter the country around the time of the Olympics. Any advice would be welcome before i approach the PSB as on previous visits I always feel nervous, even though I've done nothing wrong.(Apart from my visa oversight detailed above) Thanks |
| Jan 17, 2008 18:54 | #16 |
| The easiset part to answer is that you cannot apply for a one year residence permit without a job. The work permit book..is that your Foreign Expert Certificate? It does not really help you as it too applies to your employment. Other writers have indicated that if you are married to a Chinese you apply for a tourist visa on the grounds of family reunion and this may be granted for a year (or more). I think you should visit your PSB (with your wife unless you have good skills in Chinese) and ask them what you should do, omitting the fact that you are not actually working at the moment and clearly their system does not know or you would have had probelms enetring China before. The frontline staff at the PSB offices in large cities can be intimidating but they apply the rules as they have been instructed. But that means they will tell you the rules as they will apply them in that office. |
| Jan 17, 2008 20:50 | #17 |
| GUEST32237 | Thanks for that. I guess it was some sort of expert certificate type of thing. Tricky one this as I have already got 2 foreign trips booked for the next month. I guess i'll have to delay until after then. Thinking about it I have a contract with an expiry date which coincides with my residence visa so that should suffice and get me out of the"i shouldn't still have this visa" situation when i go to the PSB. Fortunately my old employers havn't bothered notifying the authorities of the termination. I thought i wouldn't be able to get a new residence visa, I am just concerned about the rumours of possible restrictions on the tourist visas. It's only hearsay but it seems the rules are always being "updated" when it comes to issuing visas. |
| Feb 5, 2008 12:44 | #18 |
| GUEST34412 | Hi, I have recently qualified to teach english as a foriegn language. I have friends in Cheng Du, China and would like to live with them and work as a teacher in the local area. I have found it hard, from the UK, to find a job in such a specific area. Is it possible to go to China on a tourist visa and then find a job and then get it changed to a z-visa when I am out there? |
| Feb 10, 2008 08:56 | #19 |
| It is not easy to change from a tourist visa to a work visa (Z), in fact we normally say it is impossible. If you go to Chengdu and get a job, you will need to exit the mainland and apply. I recently did this and went to HK but that is a long way for you. You did not say what jobs you are looking for, whether you have a degree, and why you are finding it hard to get a job. A degree is the normal prerequisite for a school or college teaching job, but a few manage without. With a degree and if you are a 'native' English speaker you should not have a great problem. So, I would guess you lack a degree (or have a multitude of face piercings or something like that (or even you are black, a handicap still but not a showstopper) - China is slowly broadening its attitudes). If you want to get a job before leaving you could try applying to private language centres but we get more probelms with such employers than elsewhere...so be on your guard. Many of these are not able to get you a Z visa and will ask you to teach on your L visa or may help you get an F visa which although it is not strictly permitted, many people work on them. |
| Sep 7, 2008 18:08 | #20 |
| GUEST14223 | How long does it take to get all the documents required for a work visa in China? (things such as: how long does it take to get a work permit and so on?) |
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