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Bad luck with trains in China...
Jul 23, 2011 20:38
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First the Beijing –Shanghai High Speed train had delays.

And now there is a terrible tragedy in Zhejiang province.

Two train coaches fell off a bridge after derailing close to Wenzhou in Zhejiang province.

Chinese media report that one of the trains came to a halt after being struck by lightning and was then hit by the second train.

At least 32 people have died and more than 100 are hurt after the high-speed trains crashed into each other.
Jul 24, 2011 00:56
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Canadaguy, you are so fast.

It has been confirmed that 35 were dead and 210 have been badly hurt. 19 of the dead has been identified, two foreigners and 10 females.

Jul 24, 2011 23:11
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According to the preliminary investigation, the high speed lost power after being struck by the lightening. Then another high speed train hit it behind and caused the tragedy.

What happened when it was struck by the lightening? Did the driver call the station controller?

I believe that it wasn't just a "natural disaster". Some people should be responsible for the crash too.
Jul 25, 2011 07:30
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GUEST76218 It is not a matter of a driver calling anyone. Modern signalling systems work by computers or electric current detecting trains and not allowing following trains to come within a safe distance of trains that are ahead. A basic principle of their safe operation is that if they loose power they are supposed to fail to a safe mode EG following trains will be stopped. In Australia certain regulations allow for emergency operation of trains under verbal advice of signallers when this situation occurs but they travel at a very reduced speed under control of the driver who can only go at a speed at which he can stop short of the distance he can see. Without knowing the results of the enquiry this is the only way I think that the accident could have happened.
Jul 25, 2011 23:19
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Kevin, the death toll has increased to 40 according to Xinhua News Agency. Yesterday, the New York Times reported that around 43 people died because of the train crash. A Chinese TV media said that the death toll was 63. How many people were dead due to the train crash?

The company who builds the power supply system claimed that their system didn't have quality problem. Then what makes the train lose power?
Jul 27, 2011 06:10
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Kevin, the death toll has increased to 40 according to Xinhua News Agency. Yesterday, the New York Times reported that around 43 people died because of the train crash. A Chinese TV media said that the death toll was 63. How many people were dead due to the train crash?

The company who builds the power supply system claimed th...


Someone not paying attention to their job!
Jul 27, 2011 21:54
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Someone not paying attention to their job!


Bingo! That's what I thought. There are so many doubtful points that haven't been solved.

I have a question: how many passengers were in the four carriages when the accident happened? So far, 39 passengers were dead and 192 were injured. Are there just only 231 passengers in the four carriages?

Why didn’t they tell the total number of the passengers? It isn’t difficult to count. All passengers who take high-speed trains bought their tickets with their ID cards, passports and other valid credentials. The railways must have the records.
Jul 27, 2011 22:32
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Larry, it was the signal equipment that caused the accident, according to Xinhua News. The signal equipment in Wenzhou South Railway Station has design flaws. The signal turned into green after it was struck.

The man at the Wenzhou South Railway Station didn’t realize there was something wrong with the signal equipment. The equipment was designed by Beijing Quanlu Signal Communication Design and Research Institute was put into use on Sep.28, 2009. According to the investigation, Wenzhou South Railway Station wasn’t aware of the signal equipment operational situation. Thus, the tragedy happened.
Jul 28, 2011 04:51
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Is that all, Kevin?

I still can not understand why rear-end collision avoidance system failed when the crash occured. If it worked, the collision might be avoided even the signal equipment had flaws.

The high speed trains ran again just after the train crash. No further examination has been done on the high speed railways. What if the lightening attacks the high speed trains again?



Jul 31, 2011 23:01
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Marrymax, I can’t answer your question. The media said that the detailed result of the investigation will be publicized in September. I don’t know if people will forget about this accident at that time.

The high speed trains have been running for a month. Due to the recent accident, more than 70 percent of the first and second class seats are empty. And the business class seats are empty too. But the passengers scramble to buy the tickets of T110, the only one express train which still runs between Shanghai and Beijing.


Aug 1, 2011 01:37
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GUEST8353 Dear all,

The compensation per person has been raised from 500000 RMB to 915000 RMB. It is good to see the compensation has been raised.
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