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Nov 21, 2005 03:51
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1. I thot u said that the previous message was your last obetween u/me, Elcarbon ? See, I got the guts to address u direct.
2. Just because I don't share the same opinion as u, u have been attacking me. And u are right ?
3. U don't seem to realise that u don't set the rules of the game here. What language and words I wanna use is none of your business. I was not commenting about u but the subject of your post.
4. U don't realise why I called u a hypocrite, do u ?
5. U still don't realise why I slapped u, do u ?
6. U still haven't answered my earlier question - who are u ? Where u from ? I am from Singapore as is shown in my Profile. My Profile doesn't show my face because it is not necessary - I am not trying to attract anyone. I did say that I am Asian. For that matter a S'pore Chinese. Your profile shows nothing about u other than your beautiful face.
Now who is hiding ?



Nov 21, 2005 04:16
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and Elcabron... you think we will let you have the last word? No way!! I don't need to hide too. I am Singaporean and I am chinese. And you? Where from?

I will let you know that I will stand hand-in-hand with my comrades if need be. You may call us clones and I will call you and GAZ monkeys. Fair?

I don't join TCG to pick a quarrel with anybody. I give my 2 cents worth of my opinion on any threads I fancy. You are free to say your mind. But be prepared for a retort.

Nov 21, 2005 04:31
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Quote from Elcabron :
"2. Passionate responses are welcome, but calling names on a complete nation("animals"), threatening people with "slapping", or ignoring facts (Japan is a major partner for direct investment in China - they neither look down on China nor do they slow down economical progress and they especially have no major expenses in building up an army) is just a lack of common sense."

U as a foreigner to Asia ( are u really, I wonder ? ), how do u know the Japanese don't look down on the Chinese ? Why do u think they refuse to apologise for their atrocities ?
They not reviving military - why do you think they appoint hawkish PM-in-waiting ? Why do u think they are aligning with the USA ? Their ultimate aim is to get support from certain countries to allow them to re-arm - using China's military as an excuse.
Trade - where else can they go to now ? But trade is both beneficial both ways. That's why I didn't raise this point.
Slapping - I didn't slap "people". I slapped u only.

Please respond - I don't mind despite your promise that u won't talk again !!!
Yes, I also can stand beside u and hold your hand as I have nothing against u personally.
Nov 21, 2005 04:51
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Very 1st message from Elcabron when he started this post :-

" What do you think?
I know the Japanese government never apologized for their mistakes in the past. But after more than 50 years is there still that much hatred?
What about this history book? I just heard part of it, that the historical context is shown incorrect? "

Note your own very word "HATRED". U knew there was hatred yet u became personal with participants ( in partcular me ) when u received response expected. On 2nd thought, I think u were fathoming the situation. I always thought your response to my remarks was unusual.

Are you JAPANESE, Elcabron - disguising as another race with a funny face in Profile's photo ???
Nov 21, 2005 05:07
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1. "THEY" - how can someone generalize a complete nation - approximately 120 million people of Japan, especially when there is hardly someone alive who participated in the war......
Just like GAZ already said and what is mentioned sveral times in earlier posts, which you have never read completely....
If you would have read the posts from the beginning, you would know my opinion about apologies and dealing with criminal facts of the past - but you never read or think before talking.

2. You two are clones because you are one and the same person. You arrive at the same time and talk at the same time. Otherwise there would be no reason to hide yourself in anonymity.
A TCG-member already told me about using different server to disguise someones origin.

3. You see my pic, you see all tips and routes, my page is full of infos and you, who is only a white page, tells me Im hiding????

4. Your lack of knowledge:

The US have treaties with different nations to keep armed forces on foreign ground. Even enemy countries stick to these contracts, like Guantanamo in Cuba. Do you think Fidel enjoys US forces on his island? The same with bases in Japan and treaties since the US victory over Japan. Japan would never build up heavy armies, in return the Us have military bases.

5. You slapped nobody - just yourself;-)

6. I dont care for childish games like the last word - but I care for the truth.
There is a saying that a wise man would retreat in nonesense discussion. But if this would happen everytime, the dumb would rule the world;-)
Nov 21, 2005 05:43
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Hey, u replied - really !!! My god, what happened to your earlier promise ? Shows the sort of person u are.
Anyway, let me hold & caress your hand and let's stand side by side, ignorant one.
Nov 21, 2005 06:00
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Everyone is allowed to join this COmmunity, I believe. Just curious whether Elcabron is a Jap masquerading as someone else.
Uptil now, I am at at loss as to his reactions for my labelling the Japanese animals for their atrocities and subsequnt refusal to apologise for them and revising their history textbooks to reflect differently.
This was my opinion and still is. He cannot do anything about this - he doesn't seem to understand. I am sure that if he dares to say those thigns to me here in the streets of Beijing, he might really be slapped by some people there.
But I can understand his reactions a little if he is a Jap or 1 of his parents is a Jap. But it also won't change my mind about the Jap in general - until they realise and accept their acts were over the limit.
Nov 21, 2005 06:15
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Aaahhhh!!! I'm so tired. Just leave me alone!! I don't want to indulge in more monkey talks. I'm going to bed. Goodnight everybody!!
Nov 21, 2005 13:23
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Yeah, you got it! As clear as your other thoughts!
Im Koizumi in person - tried to hide behind pictures of a laowai tourist. I stole it from him, just like the other 185 pics of him on my page....

....damn, he is good looking;-)
Nov 21, 2005 18:00
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Snowbird, you say you don't come on here to pick and quarrel but you have just called me a monkey for no reason at all.

I'm not here to side with Elcabron. I have just pointed out that in my opinion you are both correct in what you are saying.

But if you think a Japanese girl of 10 years old is guilty of any war crimes, then i don't agree at all as she's part of a different generation.
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