| Is ignorance a virtue for women? | |
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| Oct 6, 2007 07:10 | #21   |
 | Chynagyrl, I agree with what you have said on this. Your key words to me have been, "partners" and "honest" Dodger. |
| Oct 6, 2007 09:31 | #22 |
| Quote: "I think in a family,a clever wife should know how to act her role and a good husband should not hold the thought of SUPERIOR or INFERIORITY. In China now,I don't see any problem on this point.As a couple,the basic rule,I think,is trust.Just throw away SUPERIOR or INFERIORITY^_^." Right! There are couple of threads where asked why do western men prefer chinese woman instead of western. Maybe the answer really can be found here. Maybe the answer is: Because they want an equal relationship where each can love, respect and trust each other. Where there is not all time discussion about roles. Where both only live for family and each other not trying to fit other to some other form. Carlos |
| Oct 8, 2007 04:34 | #23 |
| "Because they want an equal relationship where each can love, respect and trust each other. Where there is not all time discussion about roles. " Carlos, it seems that your overtone is that western couples lack an equal relationship in families. Is it because Western men want to dominate their wive's lives. While you know, western women are so independent that there is no way for western men to control their wives. One thing I want to remind you: in Chinese families, there are quite a few discussions about roles. Husbands and Wives have the different roles to play. |
| Oct 8, 2007 06:17 | #24 |
| Iceblue, yes, in Chinese families Men and Women do have different rolls to play and each contributes in a different way. Not one more than the other but as partners. This Ying and Yang has been lost as Women in the West try to compete with men as men Dodger. |
| Oct 8, 2007 13:17 | #25 |
| 'I don't want equality, why should I give up some of my rights?' Nowadays, this is not a joke any more. "Is it because Western men want to dominate their wive's lives." Here I might use some powerful words. Several threads here are dealing with ideas close to this. Perhaps can say that reading between lines can find men looking for equality in partnership. Not a dominating position in relationship. Only a control of his own life without having to be a super hero mix at home. What is wrong if there are different roles? Don´t they accomplish each other? Make two people one, two halfs whole? Carlos |
| Oct 11, 2007 15:44 | #26 |
| There should be 2 different roles anyway. It is better for the couple and for children. |
| Oct 12, 2007 05:59 | #27 |
| A Fathers love to his children is quite different to that of the Mother. A Fathers love is conditional, set on the standard that he thinks his children should achieve. A Mothers love is unconditional. She will love them with no reservation, right or wrong, good or bad, she will love them. This is the balance that nature has created. So it is not a case of two people competing for the same role but understanding what they can both bring to the table to in their different ways. So it is has never really been about dominating the other half (unless they have problems) it has been about who in a relationship has the skill sets to be able to deal with a particular problem. Who is the best to handle the finances etc. The lines of understanding of what a parents roles is have been has been undermines by some modern movements in the Western World to the determent of the family IMO. And just perhaps that is why so many men from the West look for a woman from the East who still understand the old ways of Ying and Yang. I rest my case. Dodger. |
| Oct 12, 2007 10:20 | #28 |
| A Fathers love to his children is quite different to that of the Mother. A Fathers love is conditional, set on the standard that he thinks his children should achieve. A Mothers love is unconditional. She will love them with no reservation, right or wrong, good or bad, she will love them. This is the balance that nature has created. What a sterotyped oldfashioned view Dodger. You must be a friend of the Australian PM and the US President! Frtunately, here's a new world around the corner! |
| Oct 12, 2007 16:24 | #29 |
| Haha what a traditionalism, ok you are not stuck in the cold war era, mabye in the middle age :p Hopefully love to children is not conditional... Roles have nothing to do with feelings they are social and no god is linked to this ;) |
| Oct 13, 2007 03:52 | #30 |
| Do I understand from the replies from Paul and Erencius that you have no children? Can I presume Paul that you will be voting for the return of socialism in the next few weeks? God help Australia. E, I did not mention God in my last post. You seem fixated in trying to purge him from your life and every one else’s Do I live in the middle ages…ha.. No perhaps the 19th century. So if I am wrong (and I don’t think so) what are the separate roles of a Father and Mother? Are they the same? If they are then we should have no problem with a pair of women or men bringing up children. I have a problem with this. But I am old fashioned after all. The “new order” appears to offer nothing but more gender confusion and the complete disintegration of old fashion family values. Dodger. |
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