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Have you ever been a scapegoat?
Mar 24, 2008 03:47
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Have you ever been wronged by others? It might not be your fault, but you have to be a timid scapegoat. I bet nobody is willing to be a scapegoat. Suppose someone wronged you, what will you do? Will you quarrel with him/her, or just to be a timid scapegoat? Scapegoats exist at all levels of human community from individuals to small countries. Have you ever been a scapegoat?
Mar 24, 2008 05:54
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I don't know about being " a timid scapegoat " but yes I have been a made a scapegoat once and it's not nice so I pointed the finger at a few
others who I felt were just as at fault as I was, I admmitted my mistakes but they wouldn't admit their errors, other people told me that it wasn't
really all my fault and that I should not worry about it, so I took it onboard and forgot it.
Alan
Mar 24, 2008 09:25
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Baaaah.....Yes..... A very common occurrence in the highly competitive work environment that is used to make others look incompetent for the benefit of the perpetrator to gain advancement.
Mar 24, 2008 13:53
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Yes I have been a scapegoat a few times too many, and yes it is an unpleasant and totally unfair example of people at their worst in the way they treat other people. My approach to my profession is to treat people with respect and share the successes. When I am in a position of leadership, I also willingly take the blame if things do not go well. I am a firm believer that if you work hard and do your best, things will work out well. But then I have known people whose only regard is for themselves and their self-advancement. Watching some of the most wretched coniving incompetent morons look to better their careers at the expense of others makes my blood boil. So instead of being a timid and shy scapegoat, I become ruthless in my pursuit of revenge. And in a few instances I have been successful in wrecking the credibility of those who sought to drag me down only to better themselves.

I wish I were a better person, and accepted my fate in those circumstances graciously. But I have to admit, I did not feel remorse while watching some gutless incompetent morons fall from grace due to my actions in response to their back-stabbing nastiness.
Mar 24, 2008 22:09
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A timid scapegoat? A silent lamb?
As long as it is not my fault, I refuse to be a scapegoat. Why does someone have the gut to commit the wrongdoing but no gut to admit?
Mar 25, 2008 04:16
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Frequently a scapegoat, but mostly I have not been timid. The problem in the workplace is that there are those who are scapegoats and those who make them. Unfortunately, to be truly successful you have to be in the second group, but many of us don't want to be. Which also means it is not always the best who rise to the top, but the meanest, toughest fighters.
Mar 25, 2008 09:03
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''Unfortunately, to be truly successful you have to be in the second group, but many of us don't want to be.''))


Paul, i think i should be back to school to take your political social study course.

The ''meanest fighter'' steps each foot on two boats (groups) to avoid sink someday.

In workplace, the "meanest fighter" is disguised under apperance of coward and usually lack of enough skills for well controlling what she/he cope with. Therefore, joining two groups at the same time is the only way to survive. I agree many of us don't want to be.
Mar 25, 2008 22:07
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"Therefore, joining two groups at the same time is the only way to survive. I agree many of us don't want to be. "

Marrie, I am not going to argue with you on this. Previously, I had an argument with the other guys on the Social Darwinism: Survival of the Fittest. Different people have different life values. "To survive is different from " to live". It is a good way by joining two groups at the same time for people who aims to survive. You probably have to be accustomed to be scapegoats.
Mar 25, 2008 22:33
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It's almost a situation of"damn if you do" and "damn if you don't" in regards of how to handle a person who is the wrong doer.
Mar 26, 2008 13:32
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SUNNYDREAM,

My question is are ADAPTATION and NATURLA CHOICE in nature parallel with human society. The unfit and weak must be gone is the belief of social Darwinism. I must say in human society, the weak, in order to survive, is always spending their wits on weighing the cost and benefit and changing their figure for fitting in, which is reflected in forms of like indulging in social relationship (in socialist china, it’s very popular) or positively updating hard skills (it’s more like natural Darwinism)

Social Darwinism originated in Victorian England, I think it has more positive impacts than negative ones. Scapegoats are the negative derivatives from it.


Mar 26, 2008 22:39
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Marrie......I've got to think on this one for a while.
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