Two monks in China

Two monks in China
Jun 21, 2012 03:33
KEVIN0518 Points: Join Date: Mar 13, 2007 Status: offline	First one: He was teased by monkeys on the Emei Mountain. However, he wasn’t angry but kept his interview. It is very possible that his mind is like stopping water after many years’ practice. Second: He was the abbot of a temple in Yunnan. On June 17, he got married with a 26 years old lady. After many years’ practice, he decided to give up Buddhism, became an ordinary man and married a young lady. This guy reminds me of a joke. One day, a little monk asks his master a question “Master, why did some monks left our temple and got married?” His master was angry, saying “If all monks remain single, there will be no monks in our temple.” I am wondering what makes him leave the temple and get married with a young lady. Love? Shouldn’t monks be forbidden to talk love?

Jun 21, 2012 03:33

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He was teased by monkeys on the Emei Mountain. However, he wasn’t angry but kept his interview. It is very possible that his mind is like stopping water after many years’ practice.

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He was the abbot of a temple in Yunnan. On June 17, he got married with a 26 years old lady. After many years’ practice, he decided to give up Buddhism, became an ordinary man and married a young lady.

This guy reminds me of a joke. One day, a little monk asks his master a question “Master, why did some monks left our temple and got married?” His master was angry, saying “If all monks remain single, there will be no monks in our temple.”

I am wondering what makes him leave the temple and get married with a young lady. Love? Shouldn’t monks be forbidden to talk love?

Jun 21, 2012 10:20	#1
WANHU Points: Join Date: Feb 20, 2007 Status: Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by KEVIN0518 I am wondering what makes him leave the temple and get married with a young lady. Love? Shouldn’t monks be forbidden to talk love? I'm wondering too why monk is prohibited to talk about love, or to marry? Wan

Jun 21, 2012 22:36	#2
RAINDROP Points: Join Date: Aug 24, 2009 Status: Offline	It is not true that the monk is prohibited to talk about love. But to live away from marriage is one of their commandments once they became a monk or nun. A monk must remain within the boundaries of his vows, otherwise he becomes an betrayer of his religion.
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Jun 22, 2012 06:58	#3
WANHU Points: Join Date: Feb 20, 2007 Status: Offline	Dear Raindrop, is there any part of the Sutras saying that a monk shall not marry? Wan

Jul 5, 2012 01:35

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Originally Posted by WANHU

Dear Raindrop, is there any part of the Sutras saying that a monk shall not marry?
Wan

Wan, it depends on what kind of Buddhism he belives in. Monks in Southern Asian countries are allowed to get married. But monks in China can not get married because they have rules to follow.

I tried to search for information but just found it. There are five rules for Buddhist followers:

No.1 they can't kill anything even just an insect.
No.2 they can't be thieves.
No.3 they have to be against venery.
No.4 they can't tell a lie.
No.5 they can't drink liquor and eat meat.

I just translated from its Chinese version. The general idea is correct.

Thus, monks can not get married because they have to be against venery. However, they can marry someone when they are not monks any more.

Jul 5, 2012 18:39

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In Buddhism we have eight-fold (nobled) paths and the four nobled truths. Its scriptures, Sutras, are in Pali language, another variant of Sanskrit, which I cannot fathom. The information I get only from some writings in English but not the real translations of the Sutras. I also do not have the English version of the four Vedas in Hinduism. I am interested in studying religions of the world so that I can understand respect their religions and followers. I have the English translations of the Bible, Koran and Talmudm though.

Today most people derived knowledge from opinions and interpretations but for me I'd like to know from its original source. Thank you Raindrop for your great efort.

Wan

Jul 8, 2012 01:33	#6
RAINDROP Points: Join Date: Aug 24, 2009 Status: Offline	You are welcome. I guess you know that monks in China can not get married if they are still monks. i am just curious what makes him to give up Buddism. His wife? Probably. Maybe his wife's money.

Jul 10, 2012 12:17	#7
WANHU Points: Join Date: Feb 20, 2007 Status: Offline	He may not give up his belief but probably to conclude a focussed life. Wan

Jul 11, 2012 21:47	#8
RAINDROP Points: Join Date: Aug 24, 2009 Status: Offline	So, a focussed life with his merchant princess wife? He is not disillusioned with the mortal world.

Jul 12, 2012 20:41	#9
WANHU Points: Join Date: Feb 20, 2007 Status: Offline	We do not know, dear Raindrop, what's in his heart or intention. It's good if we look at their marriage with good hope and clear conscience until proven otherwise. He may and may not be disillusioned with worldly decors. Wan

Jul 22, 2012 21:50	#10
RAINDROP Points: Join Date: Aug 24, 2009 Status: Offline	I google the monk teased by monkeys on the internet, he is known as the Chinese Buddhist monk Yan Can from Hebei province. He is good at Chinese calligraphy and painting and make great contributions on both Buddhism and social charity.

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